An 80-year-old woman was banned from the YMCA in Port Townsend, Washington after she complained about a biological man she found in the women’s locker room. The transgender staff member was assisting a group of young female swimmers who were undressing.
Julie Jaman, who had been a regular at the local YMCA for some 40 years was stunned to discover the transgender staff member in the locker room. She described what happened in a lengthy interview with the Port Townsend Free Press.
“I saw a man in a woman’s bathing suit watching maybe four or five little girls pulling down their suits in order to use the toilet,” Jaman recalled. “I asked if he had a penis and he said it was none of my business. I told that man to ‘get out right now.’”
After alerting a pool staff member to the situation, Jaman said she was “stunned” when the staffer told her that she was “being discriminatory,” “was banned from the pool forever,” and that they were calling the police.
“She didn’t ask me what the problem was, if I was okay, nothing about me,” Jaman said. “It’s as if she was just waiting to pounce on me. It was just stunning.”
Jaman says that on Tuesday, July 26, 2022, she was swimming when the Y’s aquatics manager, Rowen DeLuna, told her that a group of children were going to use her lane. Julie left the pool and went to the women’s showers. There are no private showers. They are all clustered in a common area that requires users to step into and out of the showers in the view of others. The light curtains on each shower stall do not provide much of a shield from the eyes of others. One can see out as well as in.
Rainbow flags and “pride” stickers fill the rooms and corridors of the Mountain View Pool facility, with no signage warning users that biological men identifying as women can use formerly women-only showers and toilets.
While lathered up in the shower Jaman heard a definite, low male voice. She saw a male in a woman’s swimsuit very close to where she was showering. Julie says he was “looking at the little girls as they were taking off their suits.” She remembers about four little girls being in the room.
Jaman says she was shocked. “There were gaps in the curtain and there I was, naked, with soap and water on me, and this guy, right there very close to me. I asked, ‘Do you have a penis?’ He said, ‘That’s none of your business.’ That’s when I told him, ‘Get out of here, right now.’”
Jaman then noticed that DeLuna was also there just outside her shower stall. Julie said to her, “Get him out of here.” DeLuna responded, according to Jaman,”You’re discriminating and you can’t use the pool anymore and I’m calling the police.”
Jaman remembers standing there stunned, naked and wet. “There was no concern for what I was experiencing.” DeLuna never asked “if I was okay.” Nobody explained anything to her. The male in the woman’s swim suit did not display anything identifying him as a YMCA employee. She does not remember getting dry and dressed. She exited the showers and entered the foyer to leave the building.
The YMCA’s aquatics manager then reportedly told Jaman that she was “discriminating,” telling her “you can’t use the pool anymore and I’m calling the police.” Jaman recalled being stunned, not remembering if she even dried off, and says she attempted to leave. The aquatics manager was near the facility’s entrance and again clashed with Jaman.Port Townsend Free Press
Jaman called police and filed a report, television station KFDM reported.
Port Townsend Police Officer Marc Titterness said that Jaman “had an emotional response to a strange male being in the bathroom and helping a young girl take off her bathing suit.” However, as the police investigated, it was revealed another person had called them about the incident, saying Jaman was refusing to leave the YMCA and also told them that “[the transgender staff member] was in the bathroom with a child in the day camp and Julie asked if she had a penis and started screaming at her to get out.”KFDM
The YMCA also threatened to call the police — accusing the grandmother of committing a crime — discrimination against transgender people.
Later, Jaman took her concerns to the city council — demanding that city leaders do something to protect women and children in the YMCA locker rooms and shower stalls.
“In an effort by the city and the YMCA to apply the neocultural gender rules at Mountain View pool dressing/room shower facilities, women and children are being put at risk.
“My experience while showering after my swim was…seeing a man in a women’s swimsuit watching little girls pull down their bathing suits in order to use the toilets… I reacted by telling him to leave. And the consequence is that I have been banned from the pool.
“There is no signage informing women the shower room is now all-gender… Nor have parents been informed of what they can expect… The Y has not provided any dressing/shower room options for women who do not want to be exposed to men who identify as women.Red State
“It is unconscionable that the YMCA would instigate these new policies without clearly informing pool patrons and parents. … [T]hey’ve usurped the binary designations…with no choices. The staff seems to have received little professional training on how to handle reactions to such a radical culture change — particularly for the most vulnerable, older female patrons, and children who may be exposed to inappropriate behavior, (which violates) the dignity and safety of unsuspecting women who have trusted…these facilities for many years. This is not right. The YMCA, the city, the police and sheriffs, the parents, the professionals who assist victims of voyeurism, peeping toms, pedophilia and assault need to come together to figure out how to make the new policies work for all pool patrons, not just one group.”Red State
A YMCA spokesperson defended the ban and said the grandmother’s attitude towards transgender people is “unforgivable and extremely harmful.”
Let’s make something very clear. There’s nothing Christian about the YMCA.