Danielle D’Souza Gill, the daughter of Dinesh D’Souza, accused Fox News of not looking at the facts when it comes to the documentary “2000 Mules.”
Gill responded on the “Todd Starnes Show” Tuesday to Alabama Republican Senate candidate Mo Brooks sparring with Fox host Sandra Smith on the 2020 election.
LISTEN TO DANIELLE D’SOUZA GILL ON THE TODD STARNES SHOW BELOW:
The following is the transcript from the Todd Starnes Show heard across the nation from noon to 3 p.m. EST daily.
Starnes: We’re honored to have Dinesh’s daughter Danielle D’Souza Gill with us. Danielle, what an honor to have you on the program today.
Danielle D’Souza Gill: Hey, Todd, thanks so much for having me.
Starnes: And Danielle… it was important for us to be able to play that, in its entirety, so people could get an idea of what you guys are going through. I mean, the fact of the matter is, that not even Fox News Channel wants to address the the claims and the things that you guys discovered in this documentary.
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Danielle D’Souza Gill: Yeah. And I think what’s so amazing about it is the fact that the movie has taken off so much and so many people are watching it. Even aside from the media blackout, aside from Fox News, who’s supposed to be our, you know, our biggest conservative network they’re supposed to be someone who kind of puts out some facts, but unfortunately, they have not. And yet so many people are watching it anyways. And I think that’s because the movie speaks for itself and because people actually want to know what happened in 2020 and they want to watch it and decide what they think.
Starnes: And again… This is not saying anything about what 2024 is supposed to be about or 2022. This is about understanding what happened in the 2020 presidential election and how do we stop that from happening again?
Danielle D’Souza Gill: Exactly. And what’s sad is that they don’t actually want to fix anything. You know, people who say, “Oh, you know, we’re just going to move on without even looking at the data, without even looking at the facts.” And the truth is, people can’t move on. They can’t go turn out to vote. So this argument that I think Sandra Smith was making on Fox, which is, “oh, just focus on what’s hurting Wisconsin voters, like inflation, paying their pocketbooks” while inflation is hurting people is a horrible thing. That’s because of Biden, because of the stolen election. But do you think those people are going to go out and vote if they see that we are not doing anything about this problem? So, I think our goal is really to change things, to make it so that our elections actually mean something and that there is voter integrity. And that’s why so many bills are being passed. That’s why we’re trying to get this going to AG’s so that things can actually look better for our side. If their goal is for our side to win elections, that is exactly our goal too.
Starnes: And Danielle, we should be clear, this was not just Sandra Smith. There was a lot of controversy surrounding Tucker Carlson’s executive producer. They do not want people to know about this documentary. Did that surprise you guys? The sort of the hostility coming from the Fox News corner of the world?
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Danielle D’Souza Gill: It did. I think, because before at least 2020 when Fox had called Arizona, when they were kind of one of the first ones to come down on this whole election, I think that was shocking to many people who were watching that night. But before that, I mean, I think, gosh, going back to 2016, even earlier, of course, so many people thought that they were a conservative network. So it’s really unfortunate because I think they have such an ability to influence people and yet they’re throwing that away. They’re throwing that away. They want kind of all these America First listeners. They want to have the conservative viewers, they want to get the ratings. Yet at the same time, they don’t want to deliver what those people are actually looking for. So they kind of want to have their cake and eat it too. And I don’t think it’s going to work out for them I think that you have to kind of decide, are you going to report on the facts? And look, they don’t even have to say what their view is on it. But they can allow Dinesh, for example, to debunk the Reuters fact check that they mentioned. But they’re just taking the Reuters view on the face of it as opposed to actually looking into it. And also, aren’t they a journalism outlet? Aren’t they people who have their own journalists? Why aren’t they doing a fact check? Instead, they just say, “oh, Reuters said this, we’re going to move on. We’re not even going to look into it.” And I think it’s because of what I said. They don’t want to lose any of their right wing viewers.
Starnes: Yeah, I’m with you on this, Danielle. I mean, again, this is a professional news organization. They’ve got investigative journalists. They have an investigative team there at Fox. If they wanted to dig into this, they could have done it. I think they’re using Reuters. But again, once they threw Reuters out there and tried to debunk.. At that point, it’s only fair for them to to invite Dinesh on to defend himself and to defend this great documentary. I want to ask you real quick, though, about the movie theaters. How is that going? I know we’ve been promoting it here on this on this radio program. What are you guys hearing out there?
Danielle D’Souza Gill: My gosh. Well, thanks, Todd. Yeah, it’s been crazy. I mean, the first round of the theaters, they sold out before they even hit the theaters because they had these preorder ticket sales. So then people said, “oh, we can’t get tickets, we want to go to the theater.” And so that’s why we decided to do this other round of theater buyouts. And it’s been crazy. Like random people who go to a movie theater will basically see 2000 miles playing. They can get tickets and go see it. So the theaters have actually been holding up great, even in places that are not red areas. We’re about to do a poll to find out what the influence this film has on swing voters and people who aren’t conservative. So it’s going to be really exciting to see what happens from that. But also virtual has been great. So many people are watching it on Rumble. We did a big virtual premiere that had about 80,000 people tuning in who all got their tickets before it even started. So we might do another virtual one because sometimes people want to kind of be part an evening with other people. So it’s been great just to see so many people actually wanting to look at this information.
Starnes: Danielle One of the questions we’ve gotten from a lot of our listeners, so what happens next year? Are any police agencies, law enforcement agencies asking Dinesh for information so they can pursue, you know, criminal investigations into what happened?
Danielle D’Souza Gill: It’s mixed. You know, I would say great examples are Texas and Arizona. You know, Texas had kind of led the whole thing with the 2020 election where the states were saying, “Hey, we were all wrong. Or other states were wrong because of what happened in these states. We need to go to the court.” Of course, that never happened. But Ken Paxton, some looking into it. Also, there were going to be some arrests in Arizona. So we’re trying to push things forward in Arizona. And hopefully people see that this is happening in particular states then other states will say, maybe the ones that are a bit more scared, will say, “okay, maybe I should do that, too.” But we’ve seen the worst response from Georgia. There’s definitely something rotten going on in Georgia because they’ve known about this. They’ve known about the video surveillance. A lot of it came from their state footage, and yet they are acting like there’s nothing that they can do about it, even though they know the identity of [inaudible]. So it’s definitely a mixed bag. But I think that whoever decides to take the lead on this issue, whether it’s an AG or sheriff or things like that, I think that they’re going to become a national star and will probably end up doing a great service to this country.
Starnes: All right. 2000mules.com, folks. If you want information on where the movie is playing, like Danielle said, get out there, get your tickets early because they’re going quickly and this thing is spreading like wildfire. The most successful political documentary, is it of all time? I mean, this thing is just, it’s insane how well it’s done.
Danielle D’Souza Gill: I mean, it is crazy. And, you know, it literally only been out a few weeks. I want to say it hasn’t even been a month yet because it came out around May 4th. So it’s really just been so crazy. But I think that this topic, it really has been on the minds of Americans literally the last two years. Yet because of censorship, digital censorship, obviously, we talked about some of what traditional journalism censorship, you know, a lot of people didn’t talk about it. They were like, “okay, let’s talk about other topics.” But, you know, yet the American voter has not forgotten. They’re still confused. They’re still wondering what the heck is going on. And so, you know, even if it’s just just getting more facts, getting more of a sense of what happened here, I think that’s so important for going into next time. And I don’t think this issue is going away because, you know, Trump is continuing to talk about it. If he runs again, this is going to be a central issue the next two years. And until we can really fix this problem, I think this is something that’s going to be a huge national security issue, let alone a big thing in the media, is eventually just going to have to cover.
Starnes: All right. Well said. We’re going to have to leave it there. Danielle, good to have you. I’ll tell your dad you did a good job. So you’re giving him a run for the money here.
The issue isn’t that Sandra Smith thinks the 2020 election was fair and secure. The issue is that Sandra Smith doesn’t think. She’s captive to the party line at Fox News. If she went against it, she’d be outta there. On this critical issue, she’s an apparatchik, not a journalist
— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) May 29, 2022
Fox sounded a whole lot more intelligent about “2000 Mules” when it said nothing about it. “Better to shut your mouth and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” @SandraSmithFox @MoBrooks
— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) May 30, 2022
On my podcast tomorrow I’ll take apart the @Reuters “fact check” on the documentary. Not that this will change Sandra Smith’s mind. Her mind merely follows the contours of her Fox News paycheck. She’s a well-compensated apparatchik, not a real journalist @SandraSmithFox
— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) May 30, 2022
Danielle D’Souza Gill: Oh, my goodness. Well, you know, I’m a D’Souza you can book if he’s busy.
Starnes: I love it. All right, Danielle D’Souza Gill. Danielle, thank you so much. And congratulations. This is just great, great news.
Danielle D’Souza Gill: Oh, my gosh. Well, thanks for being such a great person and someone who is willing to cover the truth out there.
Starnes: All right, Danielle de Souza Gil everybody on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line 2000 mules dot com is the website just type in your zip code and they’ll tell you where the movie is playing and you’re going to get you’re going to love it.