Dr. Ben Carson told the Todd Starnes Radio Show the Biden administration’s mandates are not constitutional.
The retired neurosurgeon and former Trump administration cabinet member explained the vaccine mandates for healthcare workers and private businesses are also “unnecessary.”
“They’re obviously an overreach and are unconstitutional and are not necessary,” Carson told host Todd Starnes.
“That’s the biggest point because each time this virus mutates, it seems to be getting weaker but more contagious,” he explained. “So what that means is that eventually probably everybody will either have had the virus or will be vaccinated, and it really doesn’t matter what ridiculous policies they come up with, it’s just going to be so contagious that’s going to spread so much, whether you’ve been vaccinated or not, you’re going to get it. But in many cases it’s going to be so mild you won’t even know that you have it.”
Carson, who served as President Trump’s HUD secretary, said he doesn’t think the Surpeme Court will allow the mandates to stand, pointing back to the nation’s founding.
“Remember, the reason people came to this country is because they want to be free to live their lives the way they wanted to. They don’t want government’s heavy foot on their neck, telling them everything they could and could not do and mandating things for them,” Carson said, “and you know, we’ve in some sense kind of forgotten about that. In a way, you know, these mandates, critical race theory, all these things are helping, I believe, to wake people up. I think we were just sort of slowly sliding into socialism. And I believe that we’re going to wake up now.”
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Below is a rushed transcript of Dr. Ben Carson’s interview on the Todd Starnes Radio Show:
Starnes: [01:38:10] All right, let’s go to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line we are honored to have with us a good friend of this program, a great American patriot, Dr. Ben Carson. Dr. Carson it’s been a while. [01:38:20][9.6]
Carson: [01:38:21] It has been a while. So nice to be back with you again. [01:38:23][2.2]
Starnes: [01:38:24] And I hope Mrs. Carson is doing well as well. [01:38:27][3.0]
Carson: [01:38:28] Oh, she’s doing very well. [01:38:28][0.9]
Starnes: [01:38:29] Wonderful, by the way. By the way, Dr. Carson, a lot of our audience may not know that she is an incredibly accomplished musician and has played in a number of orchestras. And just what a blessing. [01:38:39][10.0]
Carson: [01:38:40] Yes, she just played a couple of weeks ago in the Messiah. [01:38:43][2.5]
Starnes: [01:38:44] Is that wow, [01:38:45][0.7]
Carson: [01:38:45] just she enjoys it enormously. [01:38:47][1.9]
Starnes: [01:38:48] Dr. Carson, we have been before we get into this incredible event that’s happening in Florida. I’d love for you to weigh in on the Supreme Court hearing arguments about these mandatory vaccine policies for companies as a medical professional and one of the best in and in the medical field. What say you about these, about these mandates? [01:39:10][21.6]
Carson: [01:39:12] Well, I think they’re obviously an overreach and are unconstitutional and are not necessary. That’s the biggest point because each time this virus mutates, it seems to be getting weaker but more contagious. So what that means is that eventually probably everybody will either have had the virus or will be vaccinated, and it really doesn’t matter what ridiculous policies they come up with, it’s just going to be so contagious that’s going to spread so much, whether you’ve been vaccinated or not, you’re going to get it. But in many cases it’s going to be so mild you won’t even know that you have it. [01:39:59][47.7]
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Starnes: [01:40:00] Was there a moment early on, Dr. Carson in the pandemic when you realized, wait a second, something, something’s not adding up here. [01:40:06][6.2]
Carson: [01:40:09] I realized that quite early on when the only thing you could hear coming out of the CDC and the NIH administration was get vaccinated when I knew that there were effective therapeutics that were available and for some reason there seemed to be blinders on, it can only do this one way and one size fits all. Well, obviously we’ve seen that that’s not the case. It doesn’t work. It doesn’t really prevent you from getting the virus and its variations, but it is getting weaker, so that is a blessing in disguise. I think eventually even this administration will realize that. [01:40:51][42.2]
Starnes: [01:40:53] When you see, though, what’s happening with the crackdowns. And for me, I was just generally shocked that so many in the religious community went along with the government and shut down their church houses. What what do you think the end game of all of this is with the Democrats and with the folks in charge over at the CDC? [01:41:11][18.4]
Carson: [01:41:12] Well, if we allow it, which I don’t think the Supreme Court is going to, but if we allow it, this is just the beginning salvo. Of control of our lives. Remember, the reason people came to this country is because they want to be free to live their lives the way they wanted to. They don’t want government heavy foot on their neck, telling them everything they could and could not do and mandating things for them. and you know, we’ve in some sense kind of forgotten about that. In a way, you know, these mandates, critical race theory, all these things are helping, I believe, to wake people up. I think we were just sort of slowly sliding into socialism. And I believe that we’re going to wake up now. [01:42:04][51.1]
Starnes: [01:42:05] Are you? Are you? Are you still had that bug, I guess, about, you know, the political bug wanting to run for office? Or are you done with that now? Or are you still maybe have aspirations down the road? [01:42:18][13.0]
Carson: [01:42:20] Well, it wasn’t something that ever really particularly appealed to me. You know, even when I was, you know, the front runner in the Republican Party, it didn’t really particularly appeal to me, but I always do what I feel led to do. And fortunately, right now, I don’t feel led to jump back into that. [01:42:40][20.3]
Starnes: [01:42:45] I completely sympathize and understand [01:42:48][2.2]
Carson: [01:42:49] I do feel that, however, to work very hard to rectify the direction of our nation, and that’s what we do with American Cornerstone Institute. [01:42:57][8.6]
Starnes: [01:42:58] And I’m excited about this event. And by the way, folks on the Patriot mobile newsmaker line, Dr. Ben Carson. There is a big event taking place in Plant City, Florida this weekend, a 10000 seat amphitheater. It’s called the Renewal Restoring America’s Founding Covenant. Tell us what is that all about? [01:43:17][18.8]
Carson: [01:43:19] Well, you know, the United States was the United States, but America at the time and that the pilgrims came over here. You know, their Mayflower Compact dedicated this new land to God and to godly principles. And the people who put together our Constitution were very much doing that on the basis of our Judeo-Christian values. You know, our faith that taught us to love your neighbor, not to cancel your neighbor. That taught us about providing freedom for people that taught us the sense of community and being able to work together. That taught us the value of life. You know this as we’ve gotten further away from valuing life from womb to the tomb, we’ve become much more coarse in our relationships with each other. So the renewal is really about coming back and recognizing who we are, why we’ve been so advantaged because of those Judeo-Christian values. And do we really want to throw those away because as we get rid of them, we seem to be deteriorating as a society. [01:44:38][79.1]
Starnes: [01:44:40] So this weekend’s event, and folks, you can find information on our website, but you can go to the renewal 2022 dot org. That’s the Renewal 2022 dot org. What’s that experience like Dr. Carson getting out there with your fellow patriots, with fellow believers and talking about these big issues of the day? [01:45:01][21.0]
Carson: [01:45:02] Well, it’s actually very energizing because people are really, I think, across this country getting excited about returning, you know, to our former state of greatness and returning to a point where we actually work with each other and are friends with each other and are not trying to destroy each other and not trying to cancel each other. I mean, it’s really for those who have enjoyed, you know, peace and tranquility before what we’re going through right now. It’s pretty torturous now, you know, some of the younger people may not know any better. They don’t, they don’t know how things can be. They’ve just grown up and seen turmoil around them and hatred and animosity, and they don’t know any better. It’s our job to show them that there is a better way and that we, the American people, are not each other’s enemies and there’s nothing to be gained by acting like we are. [01:46:11][69.4]
Starnes: [01:46:12] Well, I think that is that’s an incredible word. And Dr. Carson, we’re going to have to leave it there. We’re just so excited to have you back with us. We appreciate your great insight. On so many issues, and we just pray blessings upon this great event coming up down in Florida. [01:46:29][16.6]
Carson: [01:46:31] Thank you so much. Thank you for being a patriot. [01:46:33][2.1]
Starnes: [01:46:34] All right, Dr. Ben Carson, ladies and gentlemen, a great member of the Trump administration, a part of this weekend’s big event in Florida. And they have some incredible speakers Michele Bachmann, Louie Gohmert, of course. Dr. Carson is going to be there. Our good friend, Mike Lindell is going to be there as well. Just lots and lots of different people, including David Barton, who you normally hear on this program. It is a nine to five event. January the 8th, which is tomorrow and Plant City, Florida. And again, if you’d like to information, go to the Renewal 2022 dot org. Oh, by the way, on my big, I’m a big fan of the Isaacs and they’re going to be performing music down there, so that’ll be fun. [01:47:16][42.2]