President Biden, Disney and anyone else who teaches children they can be transgender is guilty of child abuse and heresy, Pastor Robert Jeffress said on the Todd Starnes Show.
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TODD STARNES: [01:39:09] I want to go to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line. Our good friend, Pastor Robert Jeffress, he is the pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas. And you know, Dr. Jeffress, I think back to the late 1990s, when the Southern Baptists called out Disney, they were in the early days of all of this. And just like The Boy Scouts, a beloved American institution is about to go full-blown woke. [01:39:35][26.0]
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DR. ROBERT JEFFRESS: [01:39:38] Well, that’s right, Todd. And it’s obvious the Disney company has shifted its focus from entertaining children to abusing children. I mean, any organization that aids and abets transgenderism and the transgender agenda is guilty of child abuse. I mean, especially when we come to this idea of gender confusion, we need to be clear. It’s a mental illness that needs to be treated compassionately, but it must be treated and not encouraged, like the Disney Corporation and the Biden administration and so many others are doing right now. I mean, Todd, I know that sounds harsh to some people, but just imagine your son or daughter came home and said, Mom, Dad, I think I’m a kumquat, and I want to live as a kumquat. I mean, you wouldn’t say, Honey, that’s wonderful. Let me get you some clothes to help you look like a kumquat, and we’ll let you sleep outside in the garden to be with other kumquats. No, you would take that child to a psychiatrist as quickly as possible. And the same thing is true about gender. Look, gender is not a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of chromosomes. God gives us our gender, and we need to teach children that God has made us in a loving, great way for a unique purpose and not aid to this insanity that’s going on in America today. [01:40:56][78.3]
STARNES: [01:40:56] Well, Dr. Jeffers, I think President Biden might disagree with you. I want to play a little bit of what he just said. The president came out and put out a video statement. And I want you to hear just the first part of what the president said [01:41:09][12.9]
PRESIDENT BIDEN IN AUDIO CLIP: [01:41:10] “To everyone celebrating transgender day of visibility, I want you to know that your President sees you. Jill, Kamala, Doug, our entire administration sees you for who you are – made in the image of God deserving of dignity.” [01:41:24][13.5]
STARNES: [01:41:25] Alright, Stop right there. Now, Dr. Jeffers, the idea here is that the President said that transgenders are made in the image of God. You’re the pastor. What say you? [01:41:36][11.3]
JEFFRESS: [01:41:38] Genesis 1:27 “and god created them male and female.” God is the one who assigned our gender, not us. And look, Joe Biden can rub his rosary beads all he wants to. He doesn’t have a clue about what the Bible says or teaches. And what I want to know is when is Joe Biden going to have paranoid schizophrenic day when we celebrate the disease of paranoid schizophrenia and encourage paranoid schizophrenics to be who they are and not take any medicine to change them whatsoever? I mean, that’s absurd. And so is it to have transgender transparency day. Again, we need to treat this illness compassionately, but we need to treat it as an illness, not as a norm. [01:42:24][46.4]
STARNES: [01:42:25] Which is the way it has been since the dawn of time until just a few years ago, where we have this sexual revolution that has been waged in our country, Dr. Jeffers. And I don’t know, for me, it just seems like we’ve had a cultural nuclear explosion and it’s just a free for all out there right now. [01:42:45][20.4]
JEFFRESS: [01:42:46] It is, and it just is an illustration of what the Bible says in Romans 1 about people who reject the knowledge of the true God and the revelation of the true God in the Bible. It says that seeking to be wise, they became fools. And when you look at this Rachel Levine, I mean, prancing around Washington in a dress, I mean, it’s absurd that somebody like that would have such a high position in the Biden administration. It’s absolute insanity. The good news is I think there’s a good group of the American people who are rebelling against this and aren’t going to put up with it. [01:43:23][36.1]
STARNES: [01:43:23] Yeah, I mean, when you look at the polling data, for example, when people actually hear the actual name of that legislation, the Parental Rights and Education Act in Florida, an overwhelming majority of people say, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But that’s not how the LGBT activists are framing this, and that’s why the media is calling it the “don’t say gay bill.” [01:43:46][22.8]
JEFFRESS: [01:43:47] Well, that’s right, and they’re going to do everything they can, Joe Biden is going to do everything he can to cram this leftist agenda down the throats of the American people. And I think this may be the tipping point on this issue. I mean, people inherently know that they are either male or female. And to try to in any way take away the rights of parents and teaching them what the word of God teaches about gender, I think is a bridge too far for many Americans. [01:44:20][32.5]
STARNES: [01:44:20] And it seems to me that that sooner or later, parents are going to get wise. Church groups are going to get wise and they’re going to realize, you know what? We’re helping to fund all of this by our subscriptions to Disney, going to Disney World, participating in a lot of this stuff. And I think people need to be good stewards. As our friend, Art Ally would say, we’ve got to be good stewards of how we spend our money. [01:44:44][23.7]
JEFFRESS: [01:44:46] Well, we do. And I give you full disclosure. We just returned from Disney World a couple of weeks ago. But you know, I think we’re going to seriously rethink that, because I mean, Disney needs to be in the business of entertaining children, not indoctrinating them with this leftist agenda. [01:45:01][15.6]
STARNES: [01:45:02] The audio we played was a guy named Alan March. He’s the Disney production coordinator, and he says his team is committed to exploring queer stories, promoting trans, bisexual, and gender non-conforming characters, says kids are getting all this information from the media, and there’s a lot of power to that. What does that sound like when you hear comments like that coming from Disney executives? [01:45:23][20.6]
JEFFRESS: [01:45:24] Well, it’s disappointing, but I’m glad they’re being open about what their agenda is now. We need to be open about our agenda. And Todd, again, this reiterates the importance of every parent teaching his child or children what the word of God teaches about gender. And again, we say this not from a hateful point of view. God is the one who creates us; He has a wonderful plan for everyone’s life, and we need to teach our children that God didn’t make a mistake when he assigned us our gender. It’s for a great and good purpose. [01:45:56][31.8]
STARNES: [01:45:56] Alright, good stuff. As always, Dr. Jeffress, we’re going to leave it there. You left us with a lot of words of wisdom. I’m still trying to get my head around the kumquat line, but I get the point. And to that point, and we can leave it here. Dr. Jeffers, where do you draw the line? I mean, they keep erasing the line and drawing the line further down, and I’m very concerned. I think everybody should be concerned that one day there’s not going to be a line to draw. [01:46:24][27.2]
JEFFRESS: [01:46:25] Well, that’s right. There is no absolute truth is what the left would have you believe, but there is absolute truth, and it’s deposited in God’s word, the Bible. [01:46:34][8.9]
STARNES: [01:46:35] Alright, Dr. Jeffress, always appreciate you coming on the program. [01:46:38][2.8]
JEFFRESS: [01:46:39] Great to be with you, Todd. Thanks for having me. [01:46:41][1.8]