The White House staff is probably giving President Biden something to help perk him up and get him through the day, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-TX) said on the Todd Starnes Show.
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The following is a rush transcript from the Todd Starnes Show which airs daily from noon to 3:00 p.m. E.T.
TODD STARNES: [00:40:53] Always good to have on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line our good friend, Congressman Ronny Jackson. Congressman, hope you’re doing good. [00:41:00][6.2]
REP. RONNY JACKSON (R-TX): [00:41:01] Hey, Todd. I’m doing great, man. Thank you for having me. I appreciate being on the show. [00:41:03][2.6]
STARNES: [00:41:04] Congressman, we’re going to get to your book here in just a moment. I would like to hear your thoughts on an issue that we’ve been talking about for quite a while on this program, and that is the physical condition, the health of the President of the United States. And you’ve been sounding the alarm bells. [00:41:20][16.2]
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JACKSON: [00:41:21] I have been, you know, I’ve been talking about it for a long time now, Todd. I started talking about it when he was candidate Joe Biden, before he was even the nominee. And I think there’s a big failure in the Democrat Party allowing that to happen, because I think certain people should have seen what was going to happen and should have stopped it. But yeah, I have been talking about it a bunch. There’s a lot more about it in my book. It kind of came to light recently and we can talk about it in a minute. But in my book is an email that President Obama sent to me kind of chastising me and really coming after me, criticizing me because I was going after Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities. But it’s a problem. I mean, you know, it is a big problem. And everything that’s happening in this country right now is in large part because this man is confused. He doesn’t know what’s going on. I don’t think he’s being read into things, who knows who is making actual decisions in the White House. I can honestly say from my time in the White House, it’s probably not Joe Biden. He’s probably being given just enough to get out there and talk about something for a couple minutes, and then they roll him back into the, you know, the bedroom or wherever they keep him until it’s time to roll him out, again, you know, in front of the teleprompter. And but he continues, despite that, he continues to embarrass the country overseas. He, you know, we have no confidence, our allies have no confidence in us anymore. Our enemies, our adversaries do not fear us at all. They see this Biden administration as a huge window of opportunity to take what they want, whether it’s China or Russia or Iran or whoever it is. And then domestically, I mean, he’s killing us domestically. Look at our southern border. Look at our economy, the price of gas. I mean, you know, crime. It’s just, you know, the entire administration has been a complete disaster. And it started, you know, with him having some cognitive issues and it’s just continuously gotten worse. And I just don’t think he’s going to make it the rest of the term. I don’t know what the Dems are going to do about it, but something’s going to have to happen. [00:43:04][103.0]
STARNES: [00:43:05] And before we go any further and again, I think it’s important for people to understand your credentials because they are incredible. You are retired from the U.S. Navy as a rear admiral. You served 25 years and you have served as the White House physician for President Obama’s time in office. And you were the chief medical adviser for President Trump, so you have some pretty strong credentials there. Congressman, do you believe, is it possible that, you said rolling back to the bedroom and do you think that they’re juicing the president up and maybe that’s the inappropriate word to use here, but do you think they’re giving him some sort of a concoction to make it through the day? [00:43:46][41.7]
JACKSON: [00:43:48] Well, I think they’re doing something. And, you know, you’re right. I was at the White House for a long time. I was actually there during the Bush administration, the Obama administration and the Trump administration. I spent 14 years at the White House. I took care of three presidents, or if you count the fact that I occasionally took care 41 when he was a former president, you know, when he was in town and when he needed things. So, I’ve seen firsthand what it takes, both mentally and physically to do this job every single day. I was at the White House, every single day, I was with the president of the United States. And I know what it takes. And it is a tremendous, a tremendous burden, both mentally and physically. And you’re right, he’s not happy. So, you know, I think what happens is whatever is going on with him, and I said I’m not his doctor, you know, although I did spend time around him at the White House, I was not responsible for his medical care. I was responsible for the team that provided it, but I didn’t provide his medical care so I can speak about, you know, just without any, you know, concerns about my patient doctor relationship. But you don’t have to be a doctor to look at what’s going on. I mean, I tell people I’m not making a diagnosis. I’m not saying he has Parkinson’s. I’m not saying he has Alzheimer’s or multi dementia or whatever else. I’m saying something’s going on cognitively related to his age. He’s got cognitive decline. Now, all of those diseases, no matter where you’re talking about, they have good days and bad days. And as time goes on, he’s going to have more and more bad days and fewer good days. So, I think they selectively try to roll him out on good days now. There’s good times of the day and bad times of the day. I think they try to time that as well. But I do think that they’re probably, at this point, giving him something to perk him up and to try to make him more awake and alert and a little bit more cognitively intact. But that kind of stuff, those drugs that are out there that do that, the drugs that address Alzheimer’s and things of that nature and some of those stimulants, those will only cover it up for so long. Eventually, they kind of stop working, and that’s why I think they’re getting away with it right now, even though the whole country sees it. But there’s going to come a point where it’s just not going to be feasible anymore for him to stay in office and everyone’s going to know it. [00:45:39][111.2]
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STARNES: [00:45:39] Did you notice a change? I mean, you were there during the Obama years. Is this the same Joe Biden that you saw in the White House several years back? [00:45:48][9.1]
JACKSON: [00:45:49] It is not, you know, I mean, and anybody can see, you know, the one thing we have for this particular man is he’s been in politics his entire life. He’s never done anything but politics and stuff. We have 40 plus years of tape and we know that he’s always been a little bit prone to gaffes, you know? But these aren’t gaffes anymore. This is something much more serious. He’s confused. He’s lost. He’s disoriented. He slurs his speech. He shuffles when he walks. I mean, all of these things point directly at some type of cognitive, age related cognitive decline. So no, things have changed. And I tell people, you know what, if Joe Biden had ran 15, 20 years ago, maybe he would have been okay to be our president. I don’t know. I can’t say for sure. But his window of opportunity to serve as our commander in chief and our head of state, in my mind, closed a while back, and it was closed before they ran him as the nominee. And that’s the sad part. There were people that should have stopped this from happening, but they were so blinded by their opportunity to be in the West Wing, whether that’s Jill Biden as the first lady or Ron Klain as his chief of staff or the Obama folks. I mean, you know, this is essentially to some extent a second Obama presidency because the Obama folks put a ton of their people into the West Wing as soon as he was elected, led by Susan Rice in domestic policy right now. And, you know, some of those people have quit and they’re gone now. But initially, there was a ton of Obama people in the West Wing. And I think that everybody saw this as an opportunity and everybody just wanted to look the other way and hope that he would struggle through this cognitively. But now, they have nowhere to hide. I mean, this is not going to work. [00:47:16][86.2]
STARNES: [00:47:16] Congressman, I want to pivot just briefly to politics. If, in fact, the president is not able to finish out his term, Kamala Harris becomes president of the United States. There are a lot of people that are scared of that. But I, I think the same people that are calling the shots now are going to be calling the shots if she’s president. So I’m not sure this is going to change one way or the other. What say you about that? [00:47:40][23.9]
JACKSON: [00:47:41] Well, it can’t get any worse in my mind. It’s really, you’ve got to understand that it’s not Joe Biden that’s doing it anyway. It’s people behind the scenes that are doing this anyway. So I don’t think that she can do any more damage to our country than what he’s already done. And she’s just a different category of, you know, of incompetence. I mean, he is incompetent because he’s got some cognitive issues and doesn’t know what’s going on. I mean, she’s a box of rocks, right? And so, I mean, it’s just, I don’t know, you know, I think she at least, maybe she’ll be held accountable more than he is. You know, maybe they won’t cut her the same slack they cut him as someone who is, you know, obviously old and having issues. But I just submit to you that I don’t think that she can do anything worse to this country than what Joe Biden is doing on a day to day basis. And if that’s it, that’s it. That’s who replaces him. And I say move on and let’s do it, because this is not working and our country can’t sustain another two more years. Maybe she’ll have enough common sense to come to the center when the Republicans take the House and the Senate back. I don’t know. Apparently, he doesn’t have that kind of advice coming his way. He’s just double down on everything. [00:48:42][61.0]
STARNES: [00:48:43] On the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line our good friend, Congressman Ronny Jackson, new book coming out “Holding The Line: A Lifetime of Defending Democracy and American Values.” Now, Congressman, you mentioned this email that President Obama sent you because you were one of the early ones to come out and say, hey, something is not right about Joe Biden. I want you to tell us about that email exchange. [00:49:05][22.2]
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JACKSON: [00:49:06] Well, you know, I was just frustrated that day. It was early on in the campaign, and I was going to a campaign event in Wichita Falls, Texas, and I was almost there. And I saw this tweet that came up from Ronna McDaniel where she put a video clip in of Joe Biden just making these stupid statements, you know, saying he didn’t know what state he was in. He was talking about running for the Senate, you know, he didn’t even know what office he was running for. And they put this out there and I just got frustrated with the double standard and the hypocrisy, because if you remember, whenever I was in Trump’s position, that the far left, the mainstream media, the elite in academic medicine, they were relentless in pursuing me about like Donald Trump is not fit to be our president mentally. He’s not fit. You know, he needs to be cognitively tested and so on and so forth. And he did nothing for anybody to think that he had any cognitive issues. They didn’t like his style. They didn’t like his tweets, you know, and they didn’t like some of the things he said. But there was nothing, you know, confused about him. They just didn’t like him and his personality. But now we have a president that has legitimate cognitive issues and you hear nothing, nothing from these people. It’s crickets. And so when I saw that tweet come up that day, I was just like, you know what? This is BS, so I retweeted it, and I just said something simple like, does anybody remember the cognitive test that I gave @realDonaldTrump, the one that he aced? Looks like somebody else needs a test. Scary, that’s all I said. It was pretty benign overall. But then within 30 minutes, man, my phone lights up and I have an email, a scathing email from Obama. Just like calling me out, just saying, you know, he starts off, you know, how he considered me a friend and a fine doctor, a great doctor, this, that and the other, you know but he is like, you know, he said, I’m writing to you to tell you that I don’t appreciate your attack on Joe on Twitter. This is beneath you as a Navy admiral. This is beneath you as a physician to the president. This is a direct attack on me and my administration and the people that you served with in the White House during my time there. And I hope that you use better judgment in the future. So he really scolded me pretty, pretty aggressively in the letter. And, you know, initially, I’ll be honest with you, I have pretty personal relationship with all three of the presidents, because I spent so much time with them. And even though I don’t agree with anything, anything Obama did during the eight years that he was president, I was not supposed to have a political opinion. I was on active duty. I was just like the guy that flew Air Force One or, you know, the guy who flew Marine One, the commander at Camp David. I was there to take care of the president and the office of the president. But, you know, anyways, so I was a little bit, when this came out, kind of a combination between being a little pissed off and having my feelings hurt. So I didn’t know what I was going to do. I was going to write him back and I thought, you know what, I’m just going to call him, but I was late to this fundraiser. I went in, I did it and I thought, when I come out, I’m going to call him. But when I came out, I had a little more time to think about it. I thought, you know what, before I do this, I’m going to touch base with somebody who can, you know, basically kind of go over this with me, make sure I don’t do anything I’m going to regret. So I called Dan Bongino, right? Because Dan and I became really good friends. Dan was a Secret Service agent during the Obama administration. He and I traveled all over the world together, and I knew he would know how I felt about this. You know, the emotions I was having. So, I called Dset and he get me straight right away. Dan was like, Look, Ronnie, you don’t owe this man anything, nothing. Where was he at when you were being butchered by the far left, by the mainstream media during your nomination for VA, they were destroying you over false allegations and lies that he knew were false allegations and lies. He could’ve picked the phone up and made one phone call to somebody on the Veterans Affairs Committee. And it would have completely stopped. He did nothing to help you. You don’t owe this guy anything. And I thought to myself, You know what? Dan’s exactly right. That time has passed. I don’t owe this man anything at this point. And I didn’t even reply to the email, and I hadn’t talked about it at all. So in my book, it got leaked out of my book. But that’s how it’s become an issue now, because it was back in February of 2020 when he sent it to me. [00:52:44][217.4]
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STARNES: [00:52:44] Well, the point is that President Obama did not do that. He did not go out there and defend you. And it’s interesting that he did not refute anything that you said. He was just upset that you said it. [00:52:57][12.9]
JACKSON: [00:52:58] Right. Right. That’s absolutely right. [00:52:59][1.3]
STARNES: [00:53:00] Alright, Congressman, we’re going to have to leave it there. Congratulations on the new book, though. And we got a direct link to that on our website. “Holding The Line: A Lifetime of Defending Democracy and American Values.” Wow. A lot to unpack there. But we really appreciate your great insight, Congressman. [00:53:15][14.9]
JACKSON: [00:53:15] Thank you. I appreciate it. There’s a lot of really good stories in the book. So thank you, Todd. I appreciate you having me. [00:53:20][4.2]
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