Vice President Mike Pence seems to think he can win the presidency, but Lord love him, he’s no president, national radio host Todd Starnes said in his monologue Thursday.
“Mike Pence is going to challenge Donald Trump for the Republican nomination for the presidency. No, it’s not written in stone just yet, but that’s the only reason to be in New Hampshire right now,” the “Todd Starnes Show” host began.
“Good man, great husband, great father, good Christian, but he’s a lousy fighter,” Starnes said.
Below is a rushed transcript from the Todd Starnes Show:
STARNES: [00:04:09] So this is somewhat unbelievable, but I’m going to help us work our way through this. Mike Pence is going to challenge Donald Trump for the Republican nomination for the presidency. No, it’s not written in stone just yet, but that’s the only reason to be in New Hampshire right now. And Mike Pence does not own a vacation home in New Hampshire. He doesn’t have relatives in New Hampshire, but he’s in New Hampshire. And he is laying the groundwork, folks, for a run at the White House. And he’s not the only one. But this could get very interesting because on the debate stage, you could end up having Donald Trump, Mike Pence and Liz Cheney. Now, the question is, who does Donald Trump pick up on the stage and smack around the other person? Is that Liz Cheney? Does he pick her up and physically just smack the living daylights out of Mike Pence or is it vice versa? But they’re all going to be running for the White House. So, look, Mike Pence had a couple of things to say. First of all, he was talking about whether or not he would testify or consider testifying at the January six committee. [00:05:23][74.2]
PENCE AUDIO: [00:05:26] Jeremy said if they were to call you back, me to come and testify. Me, would you be agreeable? Why would you? If there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it. But. You heard me mention the Constitution a few times this morning. On the Constitution, we have three co-equal branches of government. And any invitation would be directed to me. I would have to reflect on the unique role that I’m serving as vice president. We unprecedented in history for a vice president to be summoned to testify on Capitol Hill. But as I said, I don’t want to prejudge. [00:06:08][42.0]
STARNES: [00:06:09] So any. Well, no, he’s prejudged. I mean, we all he’s about to throw the president or somebody under the bus. We don’t know who. But this was a conversation he was having with folks in New Hampshire. One of these eggs and politics deals. And it was, what I thought was interesting was that the level of applause. It was not all that great. I mean, he was not, I mean, he was well-received. They didn’t, like, throw their eggs at him. But he was, it was polite applause. It was not like, Oh yeah, we’re ready to storm the US Capitol for you. Oh, Too soon? My apologies. He was , the crowd wasn’t ready to you know march in the streets for Mike Pence. That’s all I’m saying here. So anyway Mike Pence, and you need to understand this, why is it that the people of the Republican Party, the people of MAGA world, why are they so upset at Mike Pence? Because by all accounts, he’s just a good and decent guy. I mean, Mike Pence is a born-again Christian. He was a radio host. So you know he’s good people. He was the governor and he was a loyal member of the Trump administration until literally the very last second. And then it all went to, you-know-where. So, I mean, he is a good guy. He is a decent guy. He’s a good Christian man. But but but but ladies and gentlemen, you know, how have they had those? Let me see if I can’t. I’m trying to explain this so that we can all understand, because I really don’t want to disparage Mike Pence, but he does have a certain character flaw. So, all right. A few days ago, they had the 87,000 IRS agents and they’re going to be coming after your butts, ladies and gentlemen. They’re not coming after the wealthy. They’re not coming after the Democrats. They’re coming after all of you, conservative, middle class, working class, blue collar Americans. All right? They’re coming after us. So let’s say you you’re at church with Mike Pence and you tell Mike, hey, you know, Mr. Vice President, I hope you’re doing good. He says, How are you doing in the economy? Oh, Mr. Vice President, it’s bad. It’s bad. Mr. Vice President had to take a part time job off the books, gotta mow grass, cash only so that, you know, the IRS doesn’t find out. You know, Mike is going to smile and nod his head. And you know what Mike Pence would do? Mike Pence, when he got home, he would pick up the phone, he would call the Internal Revenue Service and he would rat you out because it’s the good Christian thing to do. Pay unto Ceasar, what is Caesar’s. That’s what he would do. For the record, we pay our taxes here. Just in case the vice president is listening. So here you have Mike Pence now considering a run. And a lot of people are saying, well, why? Why do people really not like this guy? He’s the guy that would always go and tattle, but he would do it in the name of the Lord. And that somehow makes it okay. Let me explain. And we have some audio. This is from December. So the election, the 2020 election, it was in November. You had the controversy. This is in December. All right. And Mike Pence and this is very close. This is very close to when the certification was about to happen. And here’s what Mike Pence told the crowd. [00:09:45][216.1]
PENCE AUDIO: [00:09:46] And as our election contest continues. I’ll make you a promise. We’re going to keep fighting until every legal vote is counted. We’re going to keep fighting until every illegal vote is thrown out. We’re going to win Georgia, we’re going to save America, and we’ll never stop fighting to make America great again. You watch. [00:10:21][35.3]
STARNES: [00:10:23] Yeah. We watched. And you know what he did? He threw. He threw the president under the bus. That’s what he did. So, Mike. And nothing changed. And that’s what really angers a lot of people is that nothing changed. Mike Pence was out there. He was rallying the base. He was the one getting the people fired up. He was getting the people to go to Washington, D.C. for the big rally. That was Mike Pence. And when the going got tough, Mike Pence went running. And that’s ultimately why people are so upset with Mike Pence. If Mike Pence would have just stayed quiet, I mean, he could have told President Trump, you know what? I’ve got a little touch of the China virus, Mr. President. I got to have I’m going to have to stay here at the Naval Observatory. But he didn’t do that. No. Mike Pence said, you know what, we’re going to fight this. So think about this now, because they’re saying the mainstream media, they’re out there saying, oh, this is a good and honorable man. Okay. Well, this good and honorable man was literally out there standing in front of thousands of people. And he was saying that the election was what? Was stolen. You just heard it. He talked about, we’re going to fight. We’re going to fight on the battlefields. We’re going to it was like the big Churchill moment, and we’re going to fight until every illegal vote is thrown out. Those are not my words. Those are the words of Mike Pence. Those are not the words of Donald John Trump. Ladies and gentlemen, those are the words of Mike Pence. Was he lying or was he telling the truth? You tell me. I think he believed it. But something happened, and. And I’ll tell you what happened. Mike Pence. Lord love him. He’s squishy. He’s squishy. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s an official medical political diagnosis. The man is squishy. And we know this because in Indiana, as governor, he signed the religious freedom law that would have protected churches and the bakery owners and the wedding shop people from getting sued by the alphabet people. He had a chance. And he stood his ground. And then the complaints came and he turned tail and ran. And he abandoned the Christian people in Indiana. He can’t fight. Good man, good man, great husband, great father, good Christian. But he’s a lousy fighter. And I don’t know. Ladies and gentlemen, if Mike Pence is the guy, would you vote for Mike Pence? Honestly, I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this. Would you vote for Mike Pence if he was the Republican nominee? Given the choice. Donald Trump, Mike Pence. Liz Cheney. I’m sorry. I tried to say it with … General Tecumseh Cheney. Would you vote for her? 8447478 868. That’s our toll free telephone number. Now, I’m serious about this. I mean, these people legitimately think they’ve got it. Well, Liz Cheney doesn’t think she has a shot. Liz Cheney wants to stop Trump. She wants to be the female Ross Perot of this political season. But Mike Pence really does believe he’s got a shot here and he’s listening to his advisers telling him that. [00:13:46][203.3]