Marshall: Why Does the IRS Have All Those Weapons?

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is accumulating a “scary” number of weapons and ammo, Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) said on the Todd Starnes Show Monday.

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Marshall doesn’t know why the IRS is stockpiling guns and ammunition while adding 80,000-plus agents but he is concerned.

The Democrat’s tax bill called the “Inflation Reduction Act,” which passed the Senate Sunday will dole out $80 billion to the IRS for increased enforcement and other areas. The IRS’s current annual budget is $12.6 billion.

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Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and Jeff Duncan (R-SC) introduced the “Disarm the IRS Act” to prohibit the government agency from purchasing ammo after the IRS purchased $700,000 in ammo in January.

National radio host and best-selling author Todd Starnes asked Marshall about the ammo. The Government Accountability Office reported the IRS had 4,000 weapons and more than 5 million rounds of ammo in 2018.

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“Senator, why is the IRS stocking up on weapons and ammo? What do they need that for?” Starnes asked.

“Todd, I had the same question. I don’t have an answer,” Marshall said. “I don’t know why they are accumulating these weapons. That’s very scary to me.”

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“But I would point out that they doubled the number of IRS agents. Doubled them. And that’s going to disproportionately impact small businesses and small, hardworking Americans,” the Kansas representative explained.

He warned that the IRS is going to go after everyday Americans and small businesses that will have to foot the bill defending themselves against the massive government agency.

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“I just don’t see by the time they pay their IRS agents why they have all this increased staffing, how they’re going to net any money from this,” Marshall added, “it just turns into another tax.”

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Below is a rushed transcript from the Todd Starnes Show, which airs noon to 3 p.m. nationwide daily:

Starnes: [00:59:53] We need to go to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line to ask that question of Senator Roger Marshall, who joins us from the great state of Kansas. Senator, good to have you with us today. [01:00:03][10.4]

Marshall: [01:00:05] Todd, it’s fun to join you. I can’t wait to do the show. This will be fun. [01:00:08][2.8]

Starnes: [01:00:08] Well, a lot of people very alarmed at what happened over the weekend while and we framed it this way while people were going to church doing the good Lord’s work, you had a bunch of Democrats doing the devil’s work up on Capitol Hill. I want to get your reaction to what went down over the weekend. [01:00:24][15.6]

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Marshall: [01:00:26] Well, Todd, I think that’s a pretty good summary of all the challenges and problems going on in the United States. Tell me what from this bill was fixed. When I go home, people want to talk about the price of gas and groceries, about the safety, security of their family, about labor issues. We don’t have enough labor supply chain disruptions. And I actually think this legislation makes all those worse. So I couldn’t be more frustrated. You know, it just never ceases to amaze me. The DNA of Democrats is to raise your taxes and spend money. They think the solution to every problem is the government. And I go back to President Reagan saying, ‘look, government is not the solution to the problem, and problem of government is the problem.’ [01:01:08][42.8]

Starnes: [01:01:10] Senator, when when you look at, you know, doing a deep dove into all of this Breitbart reporting that there will be taxes on fuel, taxes on small businesses, taxes on medicine and a lot more. Is this accurate? What can we expect here? [01:01:26][15.8]

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Marshall: [01:01:27] Yes. So yes, yes and yes. So this is the inflationary part of raising taxes. A third of the energy and inflation issue is because of energy. So they add taxes to fuel and they actually take away some tax benefits that small drilling companies made. And I won’t bore you with the details, but I was born and raised in the oil patch and they are taking away some long honored write offs for for like drilling costs, that type of thing. I do think that as we raise corporate taxes, those taxes are going to be passed on to the consumer. I think that when you raise corporate taxes, there’s less money for reinvestment by the company and eventually it’s going to be less labor wages as well, and that’s going to be more supply chain disruption. And as we know, when there’s a lower supply, it’s going to increase the price. So I think this is again, this is absolutely an inflationary bill. If you look at it from a commonsense standpoint. [01:02:22][55.5]

Starnes: [01:02:24] So why are they doing this? I mean, they know what happened to George H.W. Bush. Read my lips. No new taxes. I mean, we the Biden administration can’t be stupid. So my question is, is this intentional? Do you think they’re trying to take the economy? [01:02:38][14.1]

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Marshall: [01:02:40] I don’t think they care about the economy. I think they’re more concerned about a carbon footprint than they are the environment or the economy. When I ask this administration, those types of question, what is the economic impact of some of your policies? And the answer is, ‘we don’t care. We don’t measure it.’ You know, just as long as the carbon footprint going down and by the way, I’m in favor of leaving this world cleaner, healthier and safer than we found it. I just want to use a common sense approach to it. But I don’t think that they understand economics 101. Again, they know how to spend money. That’s all they think about. They wake up in the morning, they go to bed thinking, ‘What can we spend money on?’ And then they make one decision that creates a crisis, and then they try to solve it with more of their inflationary spending and it just is a domino, a compounding of errors. [01:03:28][47.9]

Starnes: [01:03:29] Why? And we’ve gotten this question a lot over the past couple of days, Senator, why is the IRS stocking up on weapons and ammo? What do they need that for? [01:03:38][9.4]

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Marshall: [01:03:39] Oh, Todd, I had the same question. I don’t have an answer. But I would point out that they doubled the number of IRS agents. Doubled them. And that’s going to disproportionately impact small businesses and small, hardworking Americans. I guarantee you they’re going to come after small businesses. A small you know, a person that’s making 50, $80,000 a year to defend their IRS return is going to probably cost them two or $3,000. A small business is going to spend five, ten, $25,000 defending that return. You know, net net, I just don’t see by the time they pay their IRS agents why they have all this increased staffing, how they’re going to net any money from this, it just turns into another tax. But I don’t know why they are accumulating these weapons. That’s very scary to me. [01:04:29][49.8]

Starnes: [01:04:30] Well, it’s scary to a lot of us. And I would love for someone to get to the bottom of that, especially if you guys are able to retake the Senate as well as the House in the fall, folks. Senator, we have Senator Roger Marshall on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line from the great state of Kansas. Senator, when you’re, you know, looking towards the midterms, how are things looking for the Republicans? [01:04:53][23.4]

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Marshall: [01:04:55] Well, you know, I would bet a lot of money that we’re going to have a significant change on the House side. Maybe we pick up 30 seats. I think the Senate is literally neck and neck right now. I think it’s a coin flip. Anybody that thinks they know, I would not invest in any money with them at all. It’s going to depend upon turnout, I think, come November. And I think as long as conservatives and independents show up and they’re concerned about the economy, they’re concerned about the safety and security of their family. This November election is going to be a referendum on Joe Biden and his policies. I’m very optimistic. But again, we’re working against 90% of the national media who are throwing out lies and untruths out there. [01:05:39][43.4]

Starnes: [01:05:40] Well, look, I’m with you, Senator, and we know they’re going to do that, but we’ve got to get everybody out there. Everybody has got to go and do their part. They got to vote. Otherwise, you know, we get what we voted for. [01:05:50][10.3]

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Marshall: [01:05:52] You’re right. And if you think about even yesterday’s horrible situation and this inflationary bill, this doesn’t happen. If Republicans, conservatives got out and voted in Georgia, we lost two Senate seats in Georgia January 2021 that we should have never lost. If we have the gavel, this legislation never sees the light of day. It doesn’t even get written, let alone get a vote on it. If Republicans are in control, controlling the agenda, I can tell you, you cannot overstate how important it is the person who gets to set the agenda. And that’s going to come down to voter turnout and getting our message out. I think that those independents, those people that are in the middle, are much more concerned about the economy and the safety in their family than they were two years ago, and rightfully so. So I’m encouraged but we’ve got work to do. [01:06:41][49.7]

Starnes: [01:06:42] All right, Senator, we’re going to leave it there. Good stuff, as always. We really appreciate you coming on the program today. [01:06:48][5.5]

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Marshall: [01:06:49] All right, Todd. Thanks for giving us a voice. Have a great week. [01:06:51][2.1]

Starnes: [01:06:51] Senator Roger Marshall, everybody, and a lot of our listeners in Wichita, Coffeyville, Kansas, are big fans of that guy right there. [01:07:01][9.9]

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